one really understands the issues and it becomes emotionally charged and this is this is a chance for obama to really explain why he makes the decisions he does and maybe the opposition, to diagram it out and have a quiz afterwards to make sure. fill in that gap in learning the frankly people -- the one of the most popular videos are about the health care plan. these are caps in people's learning. >> host: it's a pleasure reading this book and it was nice meeting you. thanks for joining us. >> guest: oh, it was a pleasure. .. >> this is app hour and 15 minutes. >> i've just been told by c-span, i'm addressing the most serious audience i've ever addressed all of these years. [laughter] so thank you for coming. this is not an ordinary book. we live in an age of mung raking, exposes, documentaries, books on every abuse in industry and government and who knows what, and, yet, little has happened. we're operating in a kind of curve with exposes. years ago, there were far fewer exposes, and more happenedded. we had people in congress who took some of these exposes seriously and judges who took so